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Author: | Cocephus [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:21 am ] |
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Nice stuff, Hesh. BTW, I thought twice before looking. ![]() Coe |
Author: | alambert [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:33 am ] |
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I want to ask a question thats might sound like Im trying to be a jerk... but I don't mean it that way... so dont take it that way.. ok? Why buy pre-made necks. Obviously there the time savings, but isn't that kind of the point customing building? What the advantage? Why do the pros like your self some times go with premade. Just trying to understand, I'm not saying your wrong, or shouldnt or anything like that. |
Author: | alambert [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:35 am ] |
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oh and they sure do look nice! |
Author: | burbank [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:39 am ] |
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[QUOTE=Hesh1956] I thought that post title would make ya This should last me a good part of 2007! ![]() Ya mean like winter 2007? ![]() Good stuff there, Hesh! I looked at the bargain basement, but I already have a stash of Martin necks which I'll be using on a few "lab" guitars. Thanks for the heads up! |
Author: | Michael Dale Payne [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:41 am ] |
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as Someone else that uses necks by John Watkins. My advantage is I can buy them cheaper than I can make them when time and material is is counted. I also have sever C.T.S. and carving is somewhat painful process for me. but even if this was not the case the economics make since. And the quality of these necks are fabulous!!!!!! |
Author: | alambert [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:09 am ] |
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Thanks Hesh. I kinda figured it would be somthing like that! |
Author: | fryovanni [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:05 am ] |
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Those are great looking necks. I wish I could use them, but my necks that I am building lately are a little different configuration. John's quality, options and prices are amazing. The fact that you can get access to tooling that you would never be able to afford(I am speaking as a hobbiest) is wonderful. To add a comment about using these necks. Those are by no means complete. I would say they get you maybe 40% of the way to getting a neck put together. You still have headstock shaping, tuner holes, fretboard, frets, fine tuning of the back profile, final fit adjustments, inlay?, binding, nut, finishing and so on. Plenty of work to make or break the playability of the neck. Peace,Rich |
Author: | JohnAbercrombie [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:11 am ] |
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Hesh- Very cogent answer to the question about making necks! Thanks. One of the great benefits of being 'amateur' is that we can do just about what we want, just for the fun of it. It's only if we start selling guitars, advertising, etc that a whole pile of other issues (warranties, what's 'handcrafted'?, etc) pile up. I'm going to keep giving them away (or keeping them-as if I needed more) for a while. BTW (off topic) I think your idea of having the finish sprayed on 'out of house' is an excellent idea- keeps the smells and chemicals in an industrial setting, not at home. John |
Author: | charliewood [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:40 am ] |
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[QUOTE=Hesh1956] I am not a pro but a hobbyist who enjoys guitar making to the point of an obsession...... [/QUOTE] Cmon Hesh! you mean to tell us that there arent any plans on the horizon for starting to commission build for people? I mean obviously you love it, and heck your getting better than pretty darn good at it. I just assumed that you would be making the shift, Ive been wrong before though. Cheers Charliewood |
Author: | Brock Poling [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:43 am ] |
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No. He is saving up until the day he can open a guitar store. ![]() ![]() |
Author: | Kim [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:40 am ] |
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They look great Hesh, And good point Rich about having enough left to do on these to claim some ownership. That and the fact that John has just dropped all listing across his site by a further 20% for OLF members makes his pre-made neck, clamping cauls, kerfing clamps, fret cauls etc an absolute bargain. See the Welcome (AGAIN) John Watkins post for details, me thinks that this be too good to miss. Cheers Kim |
Author: | Serge Poirier [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:47 am ] |
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Hesh, i like your approach better, that is surely what i'll do too unless a commission would help pay for the subsequent project but let's say that when i'm ready, there won't be much commissions for me, just creations for sale. ![]() |
Author: | drfuzz [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:34 am ] |
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Hesh, your thoughts on commissions coincide with mine, at least for my foreseeable future. From past experience, I would rather do *my* thing and then if someone else wants it they can try to talk me out of it ![]() |
Author: | Sam Price [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:38 am ] |
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Think it's about time you called yourself a pro, Hesh. You could quite easily sell all of your "hobby" guitars for the going rate. I was actually stunned when you said it was a hobby. I thought you DID build to commission!!!! O_O |
Author: | MSpencer [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:36 am ] |
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Great points on all fronts Hesh! I too have carved a couple of necks and did not enjoy the process either time, they turned out OK, but for the quality, consistency and workability of a Watkins neck is hard to beat. I also picked up a couple of necks on the Bargain block and man o man what a bargain. Mike |
Author: | WalterK [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:26 am ] |
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Hessh, How much is Watkins selling his necks selling them for??? Sale priced?? Thanks for the info Brother, walter |
Author: | James Orr [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:14 am ] |
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I ordered my Watkins neck a few weeks ago and am really excited about it. I did it because.... - A neck blank is $40, and I'm not sure how much the walnut laminations would be. - I don't need to thickness or joint the laminations. Good because I don't have access to those things. - John's necks come with a neck angle that's pretty close to what the final angle will be. With his hardware installed and his neckblock, the fit will be perfect. - And all for $100! Laminations to my specs! Heck yeah! They won't work if you're making an archtop or electric, or a 12th fret neck to body joint, but they work for what I'm doing! |
Author: | crowduck [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:37 am ] |
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Thanks to this thread I've ordered another of Johns excellent necks, as well as several of those new kerfing clamps. For an unspecified limited time John's offering an additional 20% discount to OLF'rs on all merchandise. In addition to the already great discount price I saved and additional $21. What a DEAL!! Enter the promo code "OLF" at checkout for the 20% discount. CrowDuck |
Author: | Billy T [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 4:01 pm ] |
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Man, I was afraid to open thi one I thought Heshie was back! ![]() ![]() ![]() Your logic makes sense bud! You've got some nice pieces of work there! |
Author: | TonyKarol [ Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:48 pm ] |
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Hesh isnt going to open a guitar store .. its going to be a HeshTone Guitar Museum .. come see-um, and play-um. Kind of like DisneyLand for guitar nuts (like us) ![]() |
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